agentlenpc: (Fay2)
agentlenpc ([personal profile] agentlenpc) wrote in [community profile] agentlenet2019-03-03 02:50 pm

psychic thread

[The gentle brush against the Strangers' minds comes in early evening. It is, as all mental touches are from Fayura, soft and unassuming, much like a polite knock at a door. Once as many minds are connected as she thinks will open the door to her, she speaks.]

I am curious, Strangers, what you would do with the young man who shot and killed Councilwoman Vera.

Many of you come from worlds where there are laws against murder. While we have no such laws here, when a Blood male in a Queen's Territory kills another without cause, she may demand a price from him. Sometimes, that is his own life if he was negligent enough with his temper and sometimes, it's something less.

My trouble is this: if I execute him according to the laws of the Blood, of which he is not one, the Guilds will rouse their people into a furor and attack not only me, but the people of Draega. If I turn him over to the Ebon Council, the Guilds will do much the same, and that will incite the Council to strike back. And if I return him to the Guilds for accolades instead of punishment for taking a life, the Ebon Council will have cause to rip apart the Guilds and anyone in their way to extract from him the price for murdering one of their own.

Were you me, what course would you take? And please try not to shout over each other; this is as many of you as I could reach.
thequitecontrary: (listening 2)

psychic;

[personal profile] thequitecontrary 2019-03-04 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
[ Mary is honestly a bit surprised that Fayura is posing this question to them. Should not a queen decide this on her own? But maybe she trusts the counsel of the Strangers and wishes to know their opinions. ]

I am from a place where there are laws against murder. We also have courts and judges. If a person commits a crime, their case is to be weighed by a judge and a jury of lay people.

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shiftinglikeclay: (11)

psychic;

[personal profile] shiftinglikeclay 2019-03-04 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
What are the Guilds' laws on murder?

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sunborne: (128. - 🔥 - PLEADING.)

[personal profile] sunborne 2019-03-04 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Do you know why he did it?

[ that's the first thing that daylight wants to know about this sticky situation. though he has a shadow of an idea of an answer, he wants to be sure of something.

judging by how... lost he sounds as he uses this line, he's no doubt trying to still wrap his processors around the predicament that happened at the last meal. he wasn't there for when it initially happened, but the aftermath was enough to shake him up a bit. ]


Why would he do that to her? And her family? Why did it go that far?

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unwieldy: (didn't make too many this time.)

[personal profile] unwieldy 2019-03-04 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
[ The brush against his mind is a familiar one, and he lets her in without much of a fuss.

It's definitely a difficult matter and one that requires a good deal of consideration. Stakes are high on all sides, but that doesn't stop Haein from voicing the first thought that comes to mind. ]


He could meet an untimely death in his cell, or wherever it is you're keeping him. Accidents happen.

[ Problem Solving 101 with Haein, eyy. ]

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arrogator: (clear from your vacant expressions)

[personal profile] arrogator 2019-03-04 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
[This whole thing kind of makes Mordred’s head hurt and while she’s never had a problem talking, she isn’t sure what to say until she hears this bit. Thanks buddy.]

That’s a pretty crappy way of dealing with it.

[Not really eloquent or offering much of an explanation there, but she’ll throw her two cents in too.]

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yesterweek: (I need a little more time with you)

[personal profile] yesterweek 2019-03-04 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Can't you give him a proper trial? If you get a jury that consists of someone from the Guilds and the Council? It sounds like they'll have trouble coming to an agreement, but you can keep him in a holding cell during the trial until they can.

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hardlyanangel: Interesting (Hrmmm)

[personal profile] hardlyanangel 2019-03-04 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
[There is a pause, as she listened and weighed her response against her recent experience.]

Where I came from, we had a similar rule as well a solution. A blood debt, for some it was measured in gold. Oft in work for the aggrieved party, though treated fairly while under the debt.

[She worried her lip, debating her next thoughts. She had no doubt the Allairavar had reported true their conversation and her observation of the event.]

Much more I am hesitant to say, in the event there would be a trial. Though that solution would, punish the Guild or those behind the instigation of a worker, make Councilwoman Vera's family as whole as possible, and position yourself as just.

[She paused, then added.]

A rejection by either side would be suspect by many I would think.

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midship: (la gaditana)

[personal profile] midship 2019-03-04 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
Was it without cause?

[Not that he has an opinion. It's just infinitely harder to stop one's thoughts than one's tongue.]

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inducings: (do not despair because of suffering)

[personal profile] inducings 2019-03-05 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
[ Piper considers for a few agonizing minutes before she responds. She'd seen the aftermath of Councilwoman Vera's death, seen the grief and rage of her daughter as she dug up the witchblood... but it was hard not to empathize with the landens. According to what she'd learned in the library, centuries of inequality come to a brutal boiling point. And now... things looked really bad. Just the way the crowd had interacted that night...

So she has an opinion, she knows what she thinks should be done - a trial by jury, to decide innocence and punishment. But she's not sure that would mean anything to them, not unless the Blood and the landen saw the reason why. ]


From what I've been able to understand about the laws of this place, they're on a... pretty case by case basis, depending on what the Queen says. If that's the case... you might have an opportunity here. To set a new example, a new law... but if that's what you want, the people you're asking shouldn't be us. Or - shouldn't be only us.

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i always tl;dr and i am sorry

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thedarkbond: (halberd revenger)

[personal profile] thedarkbond 2019-03-05 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
I think a lot of people have already suggested what I would, but I'll support the suggestion of a jury. If your laws don't take into account the other group, then there needs to be some kind of reconciliation of that.

[It seems like kind of a silly way to form a justice system in a world this mixed to Ren, though, so after another few moments of consideration, he goes on. There's a certain airiness to his tone, but in a psychic thread, he can't really disguise that he's thinking about it relatively seriously.]

But I think you also need to be prepared for a way to fairly decide if the jury comes to a stalemate. And I think it might be a good idea to think about the potential for the future. If neither of your legal systems touch each other, then instances like this are always going to be a problem, right? There needs to be something consistent to handle it so people can't make more trouble about how it's being done.

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mollymocked: (âš” but you can flip the switch)

psychic;

[personal profile] mollymocked 2019-03-05 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
I can't offer anything that everyone else isn't already suggesting and... This is a bit more complicated than I'd like, but you said the boy won't speak to you and you can't probe his mind...

There's a trick I can do that makes people more... Let's say cooperative. It's never had any side effects aside from the people I use it on being irritated with me afterwards.
Edited 2019-03-05 06:47 (UTC)

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retrorsum: (sɪxᴛᴇᴇɴ)

( psychic )

[personal profile] retrorsum 2019-03-05 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Many worlds imprison their criminals, sentenced for a period of time.

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verstoned: (So we rewrite our lives)

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Seems like you've a good path to choose already, Your Grace. [Thanks, Daylight.] But any word on what could make the boy talk?

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